Everything wrong with Dyzee Threadz Break Shoes

Dear Breakin’ world,

When I began this journey to deliver the perfect Break Shoe, I would have never imagined that we could have made it as far as we did, and we couldn’t have done it without each and every person that had supported. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for giving our shoes a chance and purchasing one of our various designs.

While I do sincerely believe that we created the best shoes that I personally have ever Break’d in, I have come to the realization that the way I break, and my needs in a Break shoe, are different from what others may need from a Breakin’ shoe. While there are those who say Dyzee Threadz is their go to shoes for Breakin’, there are plenty of others where Dyzee Threadz has fallen short. Therefore I sincerely apologize to all our supporters where Dyzee Threadz did not live up to your expectations.

And to be honest, I probably would not have known about all these issues if it had not been for the awesome members of the Breakin’ Sneaker Club who have been, posting sharing and documenting all the wear & tear issues, among many other Breakin' issues, on the Breakin’ Sneaker Club discord page. 

 For those who may have had issues with a pair of Dyzee Threadz, please read through to the end because we want to show you how you can get help with repairs and also to find out how you can get support, discounts or compensation, because we want to thank you for all your support.

With that said, in the spirit of full transparency, here is everything that we have found wrong about Dyzee Threadz Break Shoes in the past 4 years and the lessons we have learned from them.

 

#1 Wear & Tear

For a Breakin’ shoe, durability is high on the list of expectations. I first and foremost must admit that there have been durability issues with a few of the designs, mainly due to our research, testing and experimentation of various materials since 2019.

We have found that leather, suede, Orion knitting and canvas seem to be the strongest materials. Thus, we no longer use certain materials (on the upper and side panels of the shoe) such as synthetic leathers, vinyl, nylon and even cloth materials such as denim or flannel, as they are prone to rips and tears.

Furthermore, our popular designs which utilized printed designs on the sides such as our camo & floral Numbawonz, proved that ink compromises glue cohesiveness which brings us to issue number two.

 

#2 Outsole separation issues

Another important lesson we learned is that there are many factors in both Breakin’ and shoe design which can cause the outsole to begin separating from the shoe. While certain movements in Breakin can make the sole come off quicker, certain materials used that are more easily tear-able such as synthetic leathers, denim and felt, can also compromise the cohesiveness of the outsole, despite using the strongest glue. Which is why we no longer glue the outsole directly onto weaker materials such as felt, denim or cloth where the glue can rip the fibers out.

Furthermore, all future Break shoe designs will have the outsole stitched directly onto side panels of the shoe to improve cohesiveness, which we have implemented with our STREET-soles, significantly decreasing separation issues.

However, due to the soft nature of the Pro-Soles, stitching would not be effective which brings us to issue number three.

 

#3 The soft nature of Pro-Soles

When I was highly active in my pro battling career, one of my biggest issues was that the floors I trained on was often different than all the other floors I competed on, whether it would be gym floors, marble, dusty floors, or sticker logos. The grip and feel was always different from one event to another, which would really affect my confidence in my style and my ability to execute certain movements. So when I found out that Thermo-Plastic-Rubber (TPR) soles were the best for consistent grip on any floor, as well as lightweight, soft and flexible, I knew this was the sole we had to go with for pro-Breakin. Little did I know that it would come with some draw backs.

The soft TPR material not only wears down faster due to abrasions, but can also leave streaks and dust shavings on the floors. Although streaks from TPR shoes are technically considered non-marking as they will not permanently destroy flooring like outdoor rubber soles will, it can be a bit of a nuisance having to sweep up after sessions if you are training at home. Furthermore, dancing on rough or uneven floors such as concrete can wear down TPR faster, especially if the shoe is worn for everyday use on top of training.

Perhaps I would have noticed this earlier if my entire Breakin’ style wasn’t revolved around being light on my feet. To quote one of my biggest inspirations "Ken Swift" he said:

"My footwork improved because I didn't want to scratch my sneakers....which means I became more like a hovercraft above the ground to try and miss those areas where I would scrape. And that improved my footwork a lot, that's why people started recognizing my footwork."

Thus i've always taken that advice to heart, not only to have a clean and light footwork style, but literally to increase the lifespand of my Breakin' kicks.

Newer dynamic Breakin’ styles today require a lot of impact and scrapes on the bottom of their feet which puts heavier abrasions on the soles, and is why we created the rubber Street-soles.

Also from a young age I learned to designate my Breakin’ shoes only for training or competitions, while selecting other shoes, like street-soles, designated specifically for repetitive rigorous power move training such as flares and floats, thus all my Dyzee Threadz Break shoes are still in good shape.

But like I said earlier, I’ve learned that my Break shoe needs are unique to my individual experiences, which brings me to issue number four.


#4 Deteriorating lasting board under the insole

One feature I learned about making shoes, is that there is a hard cardboard-like thin board piece laying on top of the midsole underneath where the insole sits called a lasting board, which may deteriorate over time due to softening from moisture and then high impact movements and body weight.

Without the lasting board the shape and structure of the insole could be warped or damaged lessening the comfort and ability to absorb high impact.

It may be strange to some, but my feet don’t really sweat so I never encountered this issue, which has occasionally been brought to my attention. Therefore, for all our newer Break Shoes we have put a rubber-like material on top of the lasting board to keep away moisture and prevent deterioration.

 

#5 Price point

Another issue which we have come across is the price point being higher than the average Bboy’s budget for Breakin’ shoes. When the 2020 pandemic hit, shipping costs sky rocketed. Our only choice to ship the shoes to Taiwan from our factory in Indonesia was by air freight which literally often costed more than the shoes itself.

However, with the sea container shipping prices recently returning to a reasonable level, we have been working on ways to bring down our price point by increasing our stock quantities while creating new designs that utilize durable yet cost-effective materials.

In order for us to bring our price point lower for all our past, present and future customers, we need to order shipping containers of stock, which costs a lot for a small boutique brand like Dyzee Threadz. This means that must rely on the support of all of you who made this even possible in the first place.  Our upcoming stock of updated designs that are set at a lower price, is set to arrive in March by shipping container, thus we are opening up a pre-sale to help off set the costs for the large order.

For those who have had any issues with previous pairs, If you email us a photo of your damaged pair,  order number, and fill out a questionnaire, we would be happy to send you either a gift-card, discount code or free pair to go a long with your next purchase, should you decide to continue to support our brand and vision to create the first sneaker company devoted to the Bboy & Bgirl culture.

If you need help with repair or restoring your Dyzee Threadz, let us know and we will add you to the Breakin' Sneaker Club forum to get support from fellow Dyzee Threadz enthusiasts.

Once again, big thanks to the Breakin’ Sneaker Club for not only bringing all these issues to light, but helping to find out ways to solve them and prolong the life of Dyzee Threadz Break shoes. And a huge thank you to everyone who supported Dyzee Threadz, you have truly invested into the culture and have helped us to develop Breakin' shoes to support our global culture.

If anyone would be interested in joining our community to see what BSC is all about, please email us at info@dyzeethreadz.com

 

1 comment

  • Tbh I never had issues, just felt like I’d let y’all know. I think from a bboy perspective, mine are still in pretty good condition because I don’t train with those shoes all the time, since primarily I use worn-out shoes/sneakers for my bboy sessions/practice. That’s probably my main advice to those who own a pair of whichever style: don’t train so much with these Threadz, and just reserve it for battles/sessions. I suppose if you battle/cypher alot with them, it will eventually start to wear itself out after a few months or even weeks.

    But, to me, that shows proof that I’ve been using it and it affirms that I’ve been practicing and training, even if just to battle myself. The wear-and-tear of shoes will catch up with months of training, even if all one practices is footwork/floorwork/threads, etc. My pair of Threadz still look fresh as the day it arrived years ago since I don’t battle/session locally with it as much as I used to. Even if there is room for improvement in its quality and durability etc., the outward appearance of the shoes (even the ones I don’t own yet) is dope and heavily appreciated. That said, even if the shoes wear out, I’ll appreciate y’all for developing a bboy shoe.

    So yeah, nothing but love for what y’all do!

    Peace,

    Romero

    Romero

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